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Redesigning Headers

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I am thinking of redesigning several templates of article headers like Stub, Delete, Cleanup, etc, as I feel that the current ones seem to be a bit dull.

Here's an example I did on my own sandbox page. I decided to use the Delete template for my example as the current one uses a very low quality image from a past series.

User:Gokyr586/Sandbox/DeleteTest

Tell me what you guys think of it, whether you think it can be further improved or you think such redesigns are not necessary.

Gokyr586 (talk) 18:15, 28 March 2015 

Why not using Mashin Chaser's picture
Jeager955 (talk) 15:31, 28 March 2015
I think it's pretty neat. The Orange contrasts with white well.
Ryousha (talk) 18:15, 28 March 2015
I love the concept. Not a fan of Orange, and the wording doesn't fit with the notion of deletion - but the principle I like.
Nbajammer (talk) 01:01, 29 March 2015
I changed the colours to match that of Gaim's base form. Also, I did another one for Cleanup.
Gokyr586 (talk) 01:28, 29 March 2015
Maybe remove the "Soiya!" But other than that, i'm down.
Trdeathwing (talk) 07:48, 29 March 2015
Why use Gaim for deletion? Wouldn't Beast or Meteor be a better choice for the Deletion headder?
Rocket.knight.777 (talk) 14:37, 29 March 2015
Mashin Chaser's picture would be perfect for a deletion header.
Jmcdavid (talk) 19:49, 29 March 2015
I agree. Seems fitting as he's a "Grim Reaper." He'll "Execute" pages that need deleting.
AonumaFlare (talk) 01:22, 30 March 2015
In fact, I have the perfect text for a header with Chaser. EXECUTION! FULL BREAK!
Jmcdavid (talk) 00:48, 30 March 2015
Nice.
AonumaFlare (talk) 01:21, 30 March 2015
And for the pages that need cleanup, why not use a shot of Genpachiro Otta and one of the many times he gets Roidmude wrong?
Jmcdavid (talk) 02:12, 30 March 2015
Thanks for the suggestions.
Here are the following updates I have made:
  • Delete: Removed Gaim one, added 4 new versions, two featuring Chaser, one featuring Type Formula and one with the classic Rider Kick.
  • Cleanup: Retained the one with Brain, added one featuring Lt. Otta with custom tagline, and another one with Jun Kazu holding the faulty T1 Eternal Gaia Memory.
  • Merge: Did two versions, featuring the Link Vent and Unite Vent cards respectively,
  • Stub: Did one featuring the incomplete Shift Dead Heat.
  • Disambig: Did one featuring Philip in the Gaia Library.
Gokyr586 (talk) 10:21, 30 March 2015
I like the first Chaser and the Otta tags. The merge I have no preferance.
Rocket.knight.777 (talk) 14:19, 30 March 2015
Added a reason parameter to the current Delete template and all of the examples in the sandbox. We ought to have done that a while ago, like we did on Rangerwiki. For some reason though the last one places it differently to the rest even though the code is the same. Any idea why?
I like the gradient you used for the disambig template, but the blue link colour clashes. You can use colour codes to override it (which I've done, so take a look).
Digifiend (talk) 17:55, 30 March 2015
The gradient is a nice touch, I honestly didn't know it could be applied like that. Nice work!
Ryousha (talk) 18:17, 30 March 2015
I LOVED the Otta one! It seriously made me giggle!
Thanks for taking my advice on that one!
Jmcdavid (talk) 02:42, 31 March 2015
Today's update: Added two new sections.
  • Block: Did three versions, featuring the Dark Nebula, Advent Void, and Kougane's evil seed respectively.
  • Spoiler: This is a relatively new one. I intend for this to be added as a header to articles which contain spoiler-ific details once it's implemented. For now, I did one version featuring the Time Vent card, but I don't know if that will fit.
Gokyr586 (talk) 09:52, 31 March 2015
A few of the images look a bit distant, and the Otta one really needs a subless image, but I like the concept of them all.
Howling Snail (talk) 21:40, 31 March 2015
I say go for the Dark Nebula Block tag.
But could we use one with a character being banished to the Nebula, just for added oomph?
Rocket.knight.777 (talk) 03:57, 1 April 2015
That would mean going through every episode of Fourze...oh wait, which episode was Meteor banished into the Nebula?
Gokyr586 (talk) 13:38, 1 April 2015
41: Club Collapse. Or, (and I'm just saying or) you could use Tomoko being sent to the Nebula found at the end of ep 40: Principle or Pathos.
Rocket.knight.777 (talk) 14:55, 1 April 2015
Padding fixed on the disambig one, Gokyr. Now matches the rest.
Digifiend (talk) 23:42, 1 April 2015
Great. It looks much less cramped now.
Gokyr586 (talk) 12:14, 2 April 2015
Today's updates:
  • Added gradients to everything.
  • Stub: Added one with Ankh (Lost).
  • Disambig: Added one with Kyu.
  • Block: Changed the Dark Nebula picture.
  • Spoiler: Added one with Sagara and Mai. Still not sure if it fits into the context, suggestions appreciated.
Gokyr586 (talk) 08:11, 4 April 2015
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I have an idea. How about using Oren Pierre Alfonzo's Bakamon Lockseed or this Oren infamous flying kick picture as a Block header?
Anpanmon 12:44, 4 April 2015
I could see this working, the line could be *electric guitar riff* FOOL!!!!
Rocket.knight.777 (talk) 17:33, 4 April 2015
I think the Sagara and Mai Spoiler could work, seeing as Mai did a bit of time travelling.
Rocket.knight.777 (talk) 14:28, 4 April 2015
AWESOME!
Pat141elite (talk) 15:00, 4 April 2015
The gradients look great, I see you didn't remove the padding code like you accidentally did with the first one you did that on. I like how the image on the Dark Nebula one is a similar colour to the colours used on the header.
However, for the one that says "This user has been vented", can we find an image without a CW logo on it please? If it's Ryuki footage instead of American then that shouldn't be any trouble I hope.
For Spoiler, perhaps something Den-O related?
Digifiend (talk) 19:01, 4 April 2015
Your wish has been fulfilled. I tried my best to.
Gokyr586 (talk) 03:25, 5 April 2015
Small question I just thought of, are we picking just one each, or are there going multiples of each tag?
Rocket.knight.777 (talk) 20:19, 4 April 2015
We actually have a choice about that. We can either pick one, or do what Rangerwiki does with the Block template, and randomise it.
      <choose>
                   <option>{{BlockGo-Busters}}</option>
                   <option>{{BlockMagiranger}}</option>
                   <option>{{BlockDekaranger}}</option>
                   <option>{{BlockGoseiger}}</option>
                   <option>{{BlockGedou}}</option>
                   </choose>
Digifiend (talk) 01:29, 5 April 2015
This is just me saying this, and I realize this might mean a lot of coding, but I kinda like that idea of randomizing, at least for those that cannot be narrowed down to one like Delete might be.
Rocket.knight.777 (talk) 02:07, 5 April 2015
Today's updates:
  • Block: Changed image per Digifiend's suggestion.
  • Update: A new section added based on existing template Update, this one has one featuring Oren and Jonouchi.
I'm not exactly sure how to make one for Spoiler based on Den-O's context. Any suggestions?
Gokyr586 (talk) 02:13, 5 April 2015
How about something related to the Junction Point? You might be able to use that for a spoiler header.
Jmcdavid (talk) 02:17, 5 April 2015
Ah, good. Time for me to watch the final few episodes of Den-O.
Gokyr586 (talk) 02:20, 5 April 2015
I realize it might not have anything to do with time, but what about using Tsukasa with one of his bad photos for a Spoiler. Also, is it possible to translate the Update tag?
Rocket.knight.777 (talk) 02:25, 5 April 2015
Whoops, didn't consider the fact that some people may not understand the translation.
Changed the phrase to English.
Gokyr586 (talk) 02:27, 5 April 2015
Looking over the Merge tags, I realize the Ryuki references are fitting; but wouldn't a picture of Kamen Rider Double be more fitting? I mean, the whole thing behind Shotaro and Philip is "We are the two-in-one Kamen Rider", right?
Rocket.knight.777 (talk) 20:05, 6 April 2015
We already have one of those. Just check the page for Kamen Rider Idun if you don't believe me.
Jmcdavid (talk) 02:06, 7 April 2015
Oh, didn't realize. My bad.
Rocket.knight.777 (talk) 02:34, 7 April 2015
Today's updates:
Gokyr586 (talk) 13:13, 9 April 2015
^Fixed that by adding a redirect.
And that Akiko catchphrase certainly fits the bill.
Digifiend (talk) 01:08, 10 April 2015
Requesting to remove the word Hemmorhoido, since it does sounds familiar...
Muhammad Amir (talk) 14:09, 12 April 2015
Today's mini update: Changed the quote in Gen's Cleanup template to a recent one from this week's episode.
Gokyr586 (talk) 12:50, 13 April 2015
Hey guys, it's been a while since I last brought this up. It's time for me to bring the redesigning of headers into its final phase. Do you guys think it'll be better to hold a vote to see which design is the most popular for each template, or do the same that has been done on Rangerwiki(i.e. randomise the templates)? Or if you have more ideas for the header designs that you would like to contribute, you can reply to this thread below. Gokyr586 (talk) 12:49, May 15, 2015 (UTC)
I'd say that once we decide on the ones we're definitely having, we should just randomise them. Howling Snail (talk) 13:18, May 16, 2015 (UTC)
I would like to point out a header that, so far, hasn't been done. We have one of Hayato Ichimonji for articles that need new images, but I think we could use some new versions of that header. For example, one of Tsukasa's infamous bad photographs, with the caption, "Oops! Tsukasa took another bad picture!" Another possibility is one of Go Shijima, with his camera and an unhappy look on his face, to the caption, "That is not picture perfect." I'm suggesting this here because when I suggested it on Gokyr's message wall three months ago, he said it was a good idea, but somehow forgot about it. Jmcdavid (talk) 19:01, July 16, 2015 (UTC)

Metric to US Conversions on Rider Bios and Rider Machines.

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One simple task for our editing staff to tackle.

As you know, we get statistical data on Riders and Rider Machines from Japanese magazines and websites, mostly found in metric form.

However, unlike the rest of the world, the United States does not use metric and has its own form of measurement system.

While other countries have poked fun at us for not using metric, our units are close to as accurate as that system of measurement.

The objective is to use conversion tools found online to give an estimate and place the US measure next to its metric on every Rider Machine or Rider forms page so US readers know what the stats mean.

Most often it will result in a number with decimals in it.

(EX. 3,821 kg = 8,423.9 lbs.)

Now for a little math... Round the decimal point to the nearest number.

For those who don't remember from school, if it is a number from 0 to 4, then the number stays the same. If it is a 5 or higher, then the number goes up by one.

(8423.9 lbs. rounded becomes 8,424 lbs., if it were 8423.3 lbs the number would be 8,423 lbs.)

(There, I just inadvertently helped you with your math homework XD)

Once you have the numbers, put it into the pages.

Good luck and Happy editing!

Aldo The Fox

Aldo The Fox (talk) 20:11, 1 May 2014

I know I would look stupid with this... but I think converting them into another form would only lead to more errors. In applying research techniques: gathering data, analysis, testing and conclusion; reliable sources are needed, specifically in the beginning of the research (gathering data), so when we see a data in the form of that uses a specific unit then you'll have to use that same unit. Analyzing this, if the pages started using a different unit from the ones in the sources, then confusion will occur. Either that, or the readers will wonder if it is correct and try to compute it themselves, if they got a different answer (usually made by people who are confused) and then edit the page to input their own version of the correct answer. If you want to still change them, then there's where the Testing phase will occur. If in a few months (my estimate would be about 8-15 months) the pages would not have any problems, then you'll have to proceed with the Conclusion that it is "safe to change to that unit". If otherwise, the Conclusion will be "it is not safe to change to that unit".
My vote for this one is neutral, because I think this system still needs to be tested.
Sijfer (talk) 11:44, 2 May 2014
All this does is add inaccuracy to the values. SuperCrazyfin (talk) 16:11, 14 May 2014
This is something that might confuse US readers, hence why I proposed the idea in the first place. Not all of us know what a Stone is or how fast 980 km/h is in speed.
Forgive my country for being rebellious in not accepting a system of measurement.
Aldo The Fox (talk) 18:45, 14 May 2015
The world is not just America. We use what Toei uses, if they use metric, so do we. But having a measurement conversion chart in the Style Guide might not be a bad idea. Digifiend (talk) 01:13, 15 May 2015
I'm glad that you guys are at least considering an alternative option rather than shutting down the issue. A conversion chart would be great.Aldo The Fox (talk) 16:55, May 16, 2015 (UTC)

Shift Cars Of The Day sandbox

Hey guys, this is just an experiment with the <choose> and <option> tags I made which functions such that four random Shift Cars are displayed in a manner similar to the closing screens of every Drive episode. It can be found by clicking on this link:

User:Gokyr586/Sandbox/Shift_Cars_Of_The_Day

As this is still an experiment, I am currently using readily available pictures of the Shift Cars nicked from this wiki. Also, only six Shift Cars are featured for now(Speed, Wild, Technic, Deadheat, Formula and Speed Prototype). I plan to add more Shift Cars and Signal Bikes in the future, and also design the page such that it looks more similar to Drive's closing screens.

I designed this in the first place because I figured this could be featured in the main page as an additional feature alongside the current Rider Battle Go! section. Of course, once the new season, Kamen Rider Ghost, comes on after Drive ends, I may design another new one based on Ghost if this experiment turns out to be successful.

What do you guys think of this? Feel free to put in your two cents' worth. Gokyr586 (talk) 10:16, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

P.S. I'm not sure how to do it such that only one of each Shift Car appears at any time, help appreciated! Gokyr586 (talk) 10:21, June 16, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, can't help with that. And anyway, I think the front page is crowded enough as it is.  Digifiend  Talk  PR/SS  KR  MH  Toku  JD  Garo  TH  CG  UM  Logos  CLG  DW  01:19, 17/6/2015 
Ah, I see. Anyway, I'm gonna leave the sandbox page as it is. Gokyr586 (talk) 03:07, June 17, 2015 (UTC)

Stats Information Query

I have a question for everyone. How exactly do some of you guys find the information for the ability stats for the riders? Zero-Ohki 18:36, June 25, 2015 (UTC) Soniczero000

We get them from TV Asahi's webpages, Toei websites or Magazine scans from Hyper Hobby, Terebi etc. See Style Guide: Sources Aldo The Fox (talk) 19:57, June 25, 2015 (UTC)

Changing the Romaji in songs to the actual Japanese lyrics

I thought this could make the song pages more professional, and better suited for any Japanese viewers of the site to read them.

-trdeathwing

I would prefer a section where it shows original Japanese lyrics, but also a section for romaji so that they can read out what is being said. Ryousha (talk) 04:37, June 27, 2015 (UTC)

Why does the header say "a/an episode of..."?  This should only say "an episode of...".  There is never going to be an instance in which "a episode" is going to work.

Thesquidking (talk) 12:52, August 15, 2015 (UTC)Squiddy

Because the headers are obivously used in other articles other than episode articles, and in most of those cases "a" works instead of "an"? Get things clear first before you say something. Gokyr586 (talk) 13:06, August 15, 2015 (UTC)

Roidmude ability templates

Templates such as Template:Slowdown do not need to exist, as they're just text. All of these Roidmude ability templates should have their text copy/pasted into the articles that use them, and then we'll be deleting them. Templates are not to be created behind our backs. Either an admin makes them, or you notify us first and we'll decide whether to approve them or not.  Digifiend  Talk  PR/SS  KR  MH  Toku  JD  Garo  TH  CG  UM  Logos  CLG  DW  20:52, 19/8/2015 

Please help us edit all of the Roidmude pages to include the actual text, so that we can delete these unwanted templates.  Digifiend  Talk  PR/SS  KR  MH  Toku  JD  Garo  TH  CG  UM  Logos  CLG  DW  20:48, 24/8/2015 
Sorry for the delay. I'll work on these when I get home from class. I deleted them thinking that people have already reverted them, but that's not the case at all. I'll have to recreate those unneeded template page and assign them a Category called Roidmudelaziness and hopefully whenever wikia refreshes, all the pages that use those templates will be tagged and then it will be easier to fix because searching for those template uses individually is insanely hard. Ryousha (talk) 16:31, August 26, 2015 (UTC)
Hi. I have a small question: If the information of Slowdown, or a Roidmude's ability needs to be updated, who will go to each of 108+ pages to update the information?--YellowFlowers (talk) 02:52, August 27, 2015 (UTC)
It won't need to be. The description is straightforward and has not changed for 43 episodes. Given a total of 48 episodes, it likely isn't changing. However that's no excuse for making unnecessary templates (and thus clogging the wiki) when people can just as easily copy/paste the information to begin with knowing it doesn't change.  Nbajammer  Talk  RW  KR  MH  TK  KI  JD  Garo  TH  CG  UM  GZ  TF  48  BS  SH  SI  TFs  FF  SO  RE  GA  CT  DQ  03:25,8/27/2015 

FCB Wiki

http://kamenrider.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:51130 http://fictionalcharacterbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Chars%26Verse_Fiction_Wiki

What do y'all think? Sounds like a nice idea to me. --MrThermomanPreacher (talk) 17:51, September 4, 2015 (UTC)

There is no "Nanba"!

This issue has apparently gone unnoticed for the whole of Drive's run. The Roidmudes are not called "Roidmude Nanba (number)" in Japanese; they're just called "Roidmude (number)". For example, Freeze is "Roidmude Zero Zero Ichi", not "Roidmude Nanba Zero Zero Ichi". The word "Nanba" has apparently been inserted into the Japanese Romaji of every Roidmude page, and also the majority of the Drive episode pages as well. I've already rectified the error on the pages for Roidmudes 001 to 054. I repeat, there is no "Nanba" word in the Roidmudes' names! If you see this message, please help to remove the "Nanba" word from the Japanese romajis on the Roidmude pages and also the episode pages. Thank you.

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Editing

I was reading the Full Throttle page, and I found there was an unecessary detail in the section for Mach's Zenrin Shooter (Hit Macher). I went to edit out the detail, but all it does is highlight the text and prevents me from doing anything else. I hope this is an isolated incident, and not a result of one or more users making editing difficult. If anyone else has noticed other pages being treated in this manner, please inform the admins. I'll leave this to the others to either reply and/or close/delete.Lokker G (talk) 02:25, January 7, 2016 (UTC)

To edit that, or any other table on the wiki, you need to use the Source Editor. Hope that helps.Jmcdavid (talk) 02:34, January 7, 2016 (UTC)

Couple of Tasks

Main article: User:Nbajammer/Sandbox/Tasks

There are a couple of tasks which need everyone's attention. Rather than drop a long "article" on what they are and where they need done, I've placed this in my Sandbox at the link above. Please read it, and then return here to comment.  Nbajammer  Talk  RW  KR  MH  TK  KI  JD  Garo  TH  CG  UM  GZ  TF  48  BS  SH  SI  TFs  FF  SO  RE  GA  CT  DQ  18:12,2/5/2016 

Please Update Ghost Rider Pages

I hope this is the right place to bring this up but the pages for the Ghost Riders need to be brought up to date. Takeru and Makoto's bios for example haven't been updated since the Specter arc.

Maswartz (talk) 18:18, February 5, 2016 (UTC)

Kamen Rider Amazons project confirmed

And no, that wasn't a typo; we're literally dealing with two different Amazons, one entirely new and enother based on the Pre-Amazon form. http://news.tokunation.com/2016/03/17/super-hero-year-kamen-rider-amazons-rider-suits-revealed-32428 --RedLegend1 (talk) 15:49, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

http://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B01D21FWLK/ref=cm_sw_r_tw_dp_D7S6wb0VT1Q0M/375-1599168-1857660 Shaman-aka-King (talk) 16:06, March 17, 2016 (UTC)

Kamen Rider × Kamen Rider Ghost & Drive: Chou Movie War Genesis

We need to straighten out the policy regarding movie names. Should the name Chou Movie Taisen Genesis be left at that, or should it's romanisation Super Movie Wars Genesis be used instead? Policy currently says that TV show names are untranslated (i.e. Kamen Rider and not Masked Rider, and Sentai shows being, for example, Doubutsu Sentai instead of Animal Squadron). But the rules also say that official romanisations should be used.  Digifiend  Talk  PR/SS  KR  MH  Toku  JD  Garo  TH  CG  UM  Logos  CLG  DW  19:04, 5/4/2016 

New headers PART TSUU~~

(Starting a new thread now because the old one has way too many posts)

It's been a year now since we started rolling out a few of the new headers as mentioned in the first discussion topic on this page (Redesigning Headers). So far, we've officially rolled out three, namely Stub, Merge and Spoiler. Please go to User:Gokyr586/Sandbox/DeleteTest to take a look at all of the new headers. Here are the current updates:

Delete, Cleanup, Block and Update are not yet updated for now as there is an issue regarding the <choose> function which makes it impossible for any parameters e.g. the "Reason" field to be filled out. No solution has been found as of yet so it would be appreciated if someone were to come up with a suggestion to resolve this.

The current Disambig template uses div tags, which is different from the coding used for the new Disambig templates, which is why I haven't rolled it out yet for fear of messing up the template. Again, if anyone could provide assistance, it would be greatly appreciated.

To address Jmcdavid's concern about Template:Picture, I currently do not plan to remake the header as of now as that template is not frequently used; right now as I am typing this no article is currently using this header at all! I might reconsider when the need really arises.

Also, I have added three new headers, namely Split, Rename, and NameUnconfirmed. Click here to view the new headers and tell me what you think. :)

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SPA Vandal?

I'd like to direct your attention to this edit: http://kamenrider.wikia.com/wiki/Kamen_Rider_Ex-Aid?diff=prev&oldid=338625 in spite of the editor's page saying he has two edits, this is the only edit listed on Special:Contributions/TheKingOfPotatos, I have enough reason to suspect the account was made solely to vandalize this page. Notably though, the account appears to have somehow been made on February 28, 2017 which is impossible as the edit was made on the 27th and while I don't know what time Wikia operates on, nowhere in the mainland United States is it the 28th as of writing this as it would be 9:57 PM at the latest. Kore wa shomeidesu. (talk) 02:57, February 28, 2017 (UTC)

I'm not so sure if it was vandalism or a very stupid mistake. As for the number of edits, I've been noticing this a lot in various new users lately and believe it must be a bug in wikia's system, stating that there is one more edit than what has actually been performed. As for wikia's time operation, about 5 hours ahead of Eastern time (4 once daylight savings ends), so that actually checks out, also see the timestamp on your sig above.  DigiRanger  Talk  PR/SS  KR  MH  Toku  Kikaider  GM  009  03:39,2/28/2017 
As I already said, it would check out if it weren't for the fact that the edit would have had to have occurred before the account was made. However, this can not be the case as it would have been an edit by an unregistered user and that would not carry over to the newly made account. Kore wa shomeidesu. (talk) 04:10, February 28, 2017 (UTC)
It wouldn't even be possible for an unregistered user to do anything, actually, because they're literally not allowed to do anything on this wiki. Jmcdavid (talk) 05:09, February 28, 2017 (UTC)
I had figured that was the case but I couldn't recall properly, it doesn't change much though, the fact yet remains that disparity between the date of the edit and the join date doesn't make any sense. Kore wa shomeidesu. (talk) 22:53, February 28, 2017 (UTC)

Translating announcements

I'd like to add tabbers to all the announcements, one for English translation and one for the original Japanese, but since it's such a big, wiki-wide thing I'm asking about it here. I've thought it's been something the wiki is missing for a while, it goes hand in hand with the lit. translations of certain names and English translations of song lyrics, and sometimes I find myself wanting to check here to quickly find the translation of an announcement and then remembering the wiki doesn't list them. I imagine many people casually browsing the wiki are confused to see what is, to them, completely indecipherable Japanese listed on an English wiki.

My ideal is this: English tabs would be the default, titled "English translation", vs "Original Japanese". Translations would be as straightforward and literal as possible. Currently existing announcement tabbers would be nested inside the two language tabs (even if the only difference is one of the sub-tabs has one word changed, for clarity's sake). Announcements/announcement tabbers containing no Japanese (Faiz, Blade, etc.) would be left untouched.\

A tab for the original kana would be useful as well, although it would add a lot of work finding proper spellings.

I could do it all myself, although some translations are more vague and might need more input, such as how to translate Ex-Aid's variety of onomatopoeias, or how to translate "Hachamecha", or Ghost Driver loops. --Diamondmatter (talk) 21:00, August 26, 2017 (UTC)

Build Tabber

There's a little debate we need some help settling. --RedLegend1 (talk) 05:41, October 19, 2017 (UTC)

5ECF76E0-6F71-4AEC-AF2B-225C9FD85B25
Well, this happened. --RedLegend1 (talk) 15:39, October 19, 2017 (UTC)

Portable Infobox on your wiki

Hello we would like convert some of your classic infoboxes to Portable Infobox we already started converting infoboxes at RangerWiki and This community has a lot of traffic, we would like do the same here since both Ranger Wiki & Kamen Rider Wiki similar infobox designs.

discussion about Infoboxes on RangerWiki

I've made a draft here Special:Insights/nonportableinfoboxes, but here's a comparison of what you use currently to the look of what I'd like to introduce.

Infobox Screenshot

As you can see, this is a rough draft with very little difference, but we will be able to get closer to the original look if you point out specific aspects. Can we work together to do all of them? If you have any questions, or this is the wrong venue for this kind of a discussion, please let us know. Thanks!

who will be working on infoboxes here
  1. User:Aiihuan - Vanguard & admin Community Central
  2. User:Minato826 - admin Travel Wiki & Wiki markup Wiki

★ Anoop © 14:53, January 1, 2018 (UTC)


I'm all for these changes, as the new infobox seems to stay as close to the original as possible. Functionality-wise, what Nbajammer said over at the Rangerwiki discussion should apply here as well.

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As we tend to use a lot of the same infoboxes on RangerWiki and Kamen Rider Wiki (and eventually all of our hub wikis in time), I also approve these changes as long as they stay as close to the original as possible. Your work thus far on RangerWiki has turned out really well, so I have faith we can reproduce that success here on Kamen Rider Wiki as well.  Nbajammer  Talk  RW  KR  MH  TK  KI  JD  Garo  TH  CG  UM  GZ  TF  48  BS  SH  SI  TFs  FF  SO  RE  GA  CT  DQ  18:01,1/1/2018 

Demotion

Alright, I might not have been needed on this wikia, but I do have a responsibility and to prevent myself from going insane from numerous help requests. Under the guidelines posted on these community pages: bad admins and bad bureaucrats and the number of complaints I've received; I'm calling out User:Nbajammer for abusing his rights as bureaucrat.

From observing this list on Nbajammer's block log, I can say with certainty that for a good number of users that he has banned were about suppressing opinions he didn't like, especially when they were aimed at him. Banning users for creating categories that were already changed, most of which were just an excuse to get rid of users he did not like. Blocking users for reverting edits by admins, even when they needed to be changed. A lot of times, these blocks were without warning or even the blocked users understanding why they did so. Several of these blocks were also just because of sleights aimed at him or users who supported him after Nbajammer showed hostile feelings towards them.

From a case of a blocked user I discussed with Nbajammer years ago, I tried to give suggestions to help prevent future meses but he not only refused to listen to my suggestions but he also shunned me from the Google Hangouts to discuss future projects and shunned me from future decisions as seen in this message wall thread here: http://kamenrider.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:34584. Admittedly, I acted rash and overstepped my bounds but I did try to apologize and reach out to that decision on Hangouts before I did that action.

I won't deny that Nbajammer has done a lot of good for this wiki, but the way he has been behaving and the multiple messages for help I've been getting, I formally ask Nbajammer to step down from his position as bureaucrat.

If he does not, I am issuing out a week long vote from everyone on this community whether they are users, admins, or bureaucrats to decide what Nbajammer's status on this wikia will be. Let this be known that this is a vote, with no debates. This also does not mean Nbajammer will be blocked, just demoted.Zeromaro (talk) 03:59, June 4, 2018 (UTC)

I would like to respond to this by issuing my own challenge for removal of Zeromaro's administrator and bureaucrat rights on the grounds of abuse of power as well as lack of contribution to and support of this community, in spite of many efforts on my part and that of other administrators to encourage his involvement in its day-to-day activities and running. Sadly, it has been a minumum of 4-5 years since Zeromaro has made any form of meaningful contributions to the wiki in any way, shape, or form. It is an abuse of power when, despite being in absentium and completely unaware of goings-on (by his own admission and lack of presence) that he appear out of the blue one day and decide to usurp myself since it is well-established I have done infinitely more for this community than he has. I am not going to wait one week - I am enforcing this immediately. The lack of care, the lack of contributions, the lack of consultation with other admins (myself or otherwise) jeopardizes his ability to be a leader. Whereas I have daily and continual contact with every admin (except him, who has told me personally he chooses to be away from everyone). My contributions, my additions, my enforcement of wiki policies, and my banishing trolls and other evil-doers has brought forth a better wiki than at any time under Zeromaro's watch. As you can see, this is nothing more than jealousy on his part.
So I am requesting Zeromaro to relinquish his rights as administrator and bureaucrat, or else we will be hosting a poll to see what the community would rather have - a bureaucrat who is continuously absent 99%+ of the time and does not consult with others, or one who has put far more into this wiki over less than a year than Zeromaro has in the last 4-5 years. I will not be giving up my position to a jealous, absent administrator/bureaucrat, for the worst kind of admin/bcrat is the absent one.
EDIT: Also worth checking out is this thread, which clearly shows Zero trying to act on behalf of users who were banned for varying reasons. Absent from community and then wants to start drama in it, in order to disrupt it and take it over for himself.

For retention of Nbajammer/Demotion of Zeromaro:

  1. Goji73 (talk) 04:44, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
  2. Gokyr586 (talk) 04:56, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
  3. Shaman-aka-King (talk) 05:13, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
  4. Rgiacobbi1 (talk) 05:17, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
  5. Pat141elite (talk) 06:42, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
  6. Yaoyao9 (talk) 07:05, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
  7. Factual Frost (talk) 07:57, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
  8. AlexTheUltimateInovator97 (talk) 09:14, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
  9. Digifiend (talk) 09:56, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
  10. W1k1m8st3r (talk) 10:17, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
  11. Ryousha (talk) 14:21, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
  12. Shinobi Galador (talk) 16:38, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
  13. Surrounded By Perverts (talk) 01:44, June 5, 2018 (UTC)
  14. StrangerAtaru (talk) 10:43, June 5, 2018 (UTC)
  15. Suminoma (talk) 17:39, June 6, 2018 (UTC)
  16. LordChaotic ~ Beyond The Airwaves member 01:38, June 7, 2018 (UTC)
  17. Aldo The Fox (talk) 23:53, June 7, 2018 (UTC) Came back for a bit just to help a friend :)

For retention of Zeromaro/Demotion of Nbajammer:

  1. DecadeHansen (talk) 07:40, June 5, 2018 (UTC)
  2. Destiny Shin (talk) 16:53, June 5, 2018 (UTC)
 Nbajammer  Talk  RW  KR  MH  TK  KI  JD  Garo  TH  CG  UM  GZ  TF  48  BS  SH  SI  TFs  FF  SO  RE  GA  CT  DQ  04:34,6/4/2018 
I would like to make an offer, I will voluntarily step down from my position as bureaucrat, if the vote to demote Nbajammer or not goes on. I may not have made much contributions but my arguments still stand. For my sake, not being bureaucrat anymore means blocked users won't come to me for help. As for everything else, Nbajammer's contributions mean nothing if he just decides to block off his problems rather than try to fix them; this not only makes the wikia look bad but also shows a toxic community.
I speak from personal experience on this page's comment section: http://getterrobo.wikia.com/wiki/Getter_Robo_Arc_(Manga) . I got into a phlamming war with a user over whether there was a proper way over writing the name of the subject among other petty arguments and deleting some of the comments. By the time I blocked him, he started badmouthing me on 4chan. I listened to a colleague called EauDeBla to better handle the situation by first unblocking him and putting up a fight on the 4chan page to the point where even the people who agreed with the user turned against him. By that point he just stopped trolling and leaving messages.
I don't know how Nbajammer's actions affected the wikia as a whole because I don't frequent 4chan, but stuff like this has happened before on the wikia because of him including a user with the real name of Chris he banned and was granted a boon only for Nbajammer to abuse that boon. As for why I don't even frequent the wiki with contributions, like founder User:Yugioht42 I have a life that took me away from the wikia and have moved on to other projects for a real life career. The only reason I kept my position was so that I was to be not spite blocked like so many others.Zeromaro (talk) 17:12, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
  • On the discussion of merits with regards to Administrative Capabilities, I have known Nbajammer for close to 10 years, both personally and in an administrative function. I can tell you, as somebody who knows him, he would never use his administrative powers in a personal manner, I have only ever seen him ban people from forums and sites due to their own misbehaviors. If he's banning people, there is good reason. ~ LordChaotic ~ Beyond The Airwaves member 01:49, June 7, 2018 (UTC)
I am going to be honest here, and decline your offer. You abandoned this community for your own selfish interests. If your life activities were more important, you should have stood down at that time. Yet, you didn't, because you opted to believe I would take the opportunity to block you and remove you from the community. I don't block people unless there has been a rule violation or they pose a danger to the community. This entire attempt to usurp me is being done out of spite, anger, jealousy, and unwillingness to cooperate with your fellow administrators because it isn't your way. You could have continued to come around and make edits and spoken to me and to the others and been a participative member of this community. You made the conscious choice not to do so. You have had every opportunity to reach me via Facebook or Google Hangouts. You chose not to. We moved the chat from Google to Skype and encouraged you to join us. You refused. We moved it again at the launch of the Discord. Though we not have personally invited everyone directly, the announcement has been at the top of the wiki's front page. You could join that, but thus far you've chosen not to. Everything you are upset about is the result of a choice YOU made. And now that the wiki is prosperous and only getting better still, you are bitter, angry, and jealous that I've made it what you feel you could have. However true that is, that's no excuse to get rid of me. I will not be going anywhere, and the bulk of this community has no clue who you even are. You have not been around and interactive with its membership in half a decade. Whereas I have been here every single day of that span. And you seem to forget that the wiki has rules which I did not write that caused these other people to get banned, yet you are forgoing those rules in an attempt to help them get back in. Aiding and abetting rule-breakers is not acting like a responsible administrator. To do so, per the Getter Robo link above, proves you unqualified to be an administrator of this community. Even if I were to lose the vote, they will still not get back in per the rules. So you are wasting your time trying to help them. Do yourself and this wiki a favor if you care about it at all, and drop your campaign and resign your positions. That would be the best end for everybody here.  Nbajammer  Talk  RW  KR  MH  TK  KI  JD  Garo  TH  CG  UM  GZ  TF  48  BS  SH  SI  TFs  FF  SO  RE  GA  CT  DQ  09:07,6/5/2018 
So we really are going down that route; even though you still have a very good chance of winning in any way? Fine. Allow me to present my case. You keep saying that I am jealous, allow me to present my achievements on these wikias: https://mazinger.wikia.com/wiki/User:Zeromarohttps://devilman.wikia.com/wiki/User:Zeromaro . And these are just the ones I have the most achievements on. Granted I'm going through burnout, brick walls, trying to get a preview for a comic book published, and spending time trying to find work in the real world at my family's behest.
I'm aware of my own limitations, it's why I appreciate the help that comes along including the Devilman wikia by the time Crybaby rolled around for redecoration. What exactly do I have to be jealous of the work made by users who are better at code than I am when they're following their passions? Allow me to quote one of your remarks: "you are bitter, angry, and jealous that I've made it what you feel you could have". When nitpicked or even taken at the words of a PC frat, it sounds like you're taking credit for the work they've put in, probably not true but that is what it sounds like. I even have a list of your contributions here: http://kamenrider.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Nbajammer?limit=500&target=Nbajammer. The only time you've ever made edits to content in the past year or so were small edits that while helpful pale in comparison to most of the regular users. Heck that's one of the reasons I've stopped trying to make edits on this wiki since a devoted fanbase is doing everything in its power to make the wiki look as good as possible. But yes most of your energy is put into discussions and that's a crucial part too. It's even good when users are around to clean up your messes: http://kamenrider.wikia.com/wiki/Nico_Saiba?diff=next&oldid=404342.
And that part about communication and reaching out, I'd like to point out that you've reached out to me a couple of times after our disagreements and in spite of them: http://kamenrider.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:38249. But after a certain period that stopped. The last message on my wall was permission for approval that was sent to me months from this time that you yourself were around for: http://kamenrider.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:74182. I can live with being overlooked by admins who regularly checked in. But when you say that I don't participate when you yourself had the means to contact me on not only Google Hangouts but also Facebook where I have your real name in my friend list and even liked one of your posts when you were going through a bad day and the relief you had in your next post. You could've messaged me on the wall, chat, or any of those other platforms, especially to ask if I was still interested in remaining an admin or bureaucrat just to be sure I was still active. I might attribute that last sentence to like what was said on here: http://kamenrider.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:53481 but the options were always available, you just didn't take advantage of them.
You might have kept the trolls and pranksters away, but you also gave some users the short end of the stick when they hardly even deserved it. While you're not the only one, you give out the most blocks just because you got into arguments with them. Greg Cassella for example, who you're practically on a manhunt for was blocked because of a few disagreements. While I can agree that arguments get a wiki nowhere, but checking his activity on other wikis like these two: https://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Greg_Cassella http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Greg_Cassella , at least Greg is learning from his mistakes. 
Or how about these statements from your Block Log:
03:23, September 28, 2015 Nbajammer (wall | contribs | block) blocked Jonathan Leung (wall | contribs) with an expiry time of 1 week (cannot edit own talk page) (Admin reversion - recreated Kamen Rider:Surpise Future page after an admin deleted it due to misspelling) 
03:23, June 29, 2016 Nbajammer (wall | contribs | block) blocked Mdjj1996 (wall | contribs) with an expiry time of 2 weeks (cannot edit own talk page) (Inserting false information: Mis-categorization of pages) (unblock | change block)
14:29, June 8, 2017 Nbajammer (wall | contribs | block) blocked YogaWP (wall | contribs) with an expiry time of 6 months (cannot edit own talk page) (Intimidating behaviour/harassment: Carrying over block from RangerWiki due to harassment of administrator here via name-calling.) 
You blocked a user for a simple mistake and another just because of name-calling? You might not have made the rules but these reasons are just nitpickings. Some of these blocked users might've been immature, but the ones like Greg actually grew up. Blocking users just because you disagree with them, even for inevitable mistakes is also a sign of immaturity. If the rules are so important, don't just give people time outs, but actually show them the link to the rules page and highlight your reasons and sections why that's a rule in the message. Maybe even put that in the introduction messages that new users get. Oh yes, you told me that people don't pay attention to rule books; well it helps to emphasize. Shaming people doesn't do anything but knock them down pegs. It's practically the same as just being a bully.
And at one point did I even say that I was trying to get rid of you? My first message even stated that you weren't even going to be blocked you were even free to stay.
So go ahead and win your votes, it's not like I have anything left to lose here, I left the foundation of the wiki and new users expanded upon into something greater. I just kept getting messages from people who had the short end of the stick of your policies. I and they might've made mistakes but nobody's perfect and at least I'm open about it and try to improve.Zeromaro (talk) 05:09, June 9, 2018 (UTC)
You are the one who decided his own feelings and his own preferences are the way the wiki should be run. If they disagree with you, get rid of them. I, in turn, am pointing out the fact that you haven't been around in half a decade, and therefore don't know anything about what you're talking about. Now, it seems I must put the nail in the coffin to you. But since that's what you asked for, I'm down for that. Let's begin with edit count. I've put in more edits in the last year than you have in the last several. So you have no grounds to walk on there. You say that "I'd like to point out that you've reached out to me a couple of times after our disagreements and in spite of them: http://kamenrider.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:38249. But after a certain period that stopped." Of course it stopped. Why would I continue when you refuse to respond, be it to me or to other admins? By that point it's clear that you have no interest in being a part of this wiki or contributing to it. I'm not going to keep trying to involve you per your role only to have you go dead silent on me. "You could've messaged me on the wall, chat, or any of those other platforms, especially to ask if I was still interested in remaining an admin or bureaucrat just to be sure I was still active. I might attribute that last sentence to like what was said on here: http://kamenrider.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:53481 but the options were always available, you just didn't take advantage of them." - I am not obligated to maintain the interest of users who hold specific roles. You hold the roles, whether you choose to make use of them or not is your own choice. You chose to abandon the wiki. That's all that needs saying. "When nitpicked or even taken at the words of a PC frat, it sounds like you're taking credit for the work they've put in, probably not true but that is what it sounds like." - What it sounds like is me taking credit for my work in comparing my work to yours. I have been enforcing the rules, I have been settling user disputes, I have been managing content re-works. What have YOU done? What have YOU contributed? Nothing. "You might have kept the trolls and pranksters away, but you also gave some users the short end of the stick when they hardly even deserved it." - guess the concept of circumstances hasn't dawned upon you. As an admin, I have leeway with respect to user punishment that I can opt to take if circumstances warrant it. "While you're not the only one, you give out the most blocks just because you got into arguments with them." - I suppose I have, to the tune of 0 blocks. Guess I'm the winner, huh? "Greg Cassella for example, who you're practically on a manhunt for was blocked because of a few disagreements." - have you reviewed the rules lately? See that one there about multiple accounts not being allowed? I suppose you didn't, or this comment wouldn't even exist. "contribs) with an expiry time of 1 week (cannot edit own talk page) (Admin reversion - recreated Kamen Rider:Surpise Future page after an admin deleted it due to misspelling)" - did you also see the rule about admin reversion? As in, don't do it? " contribs) with an expiry time of 2 weeks (cannot edit own talk page) (Inserting false information: Mis-categorization of pages)" - or the rule about not inserting false information? Did you also consider that punishment may reflect the AMOUNT of false information added? " contribs) with an expiry time of 6 months (cannot edit own talk page) (Intimidating behaviour/harassment: Carrying over block from RangerWiki due to harassment of administrator here via name-calling.)" - or the idea that maybe one shouldn't harass other users, even cross-wikis? Especially when both are run by the same people? I'd bet at this point you have never, ever looked at the rules even one time. Not even once.
"Some of these blocked users might've been immature, but the ones like Greg actually grew up." - when you break a rule, you get punished. Level of immaturity or maturity does not matter. You don't get a free pass for "growing up". "Blocking users just because you disagree with them, even for inevitable mistakes is also a sign of immaturity." - which is why I don't do that. When they break the rules, however, it is another story. "If the rules are so important, don't just give people time outs, but actually show them the link to the rules page and highlight your reasons and sections why that's a rule in the message." - which is why the link is so prevalent in the messaging when first blocked. "Maybe even put that in the introduction messages that new users get. Oh yes, you told me that people don't pay attention to rule books; well it helps to emphasize. Shaming people doesn't do anything but knock them down pegs. It's practically the same as just being a bully." - talk about the pot trying to call the kettle black. I educate users on the rules and they nearly always correct their behavior. You, on the other hand, still don't have your way so you are trying to bully me while trying to usurp me. You are not one to talk my friend. "And at one point did I even say that I was trying to get rid of you? My first message even stated that you weren't even going to be blocked you were even free to stay." You and I both know that 1) You don't want me here, and that 2) I serve this community so well and you don't, yet you want to get rid of me. Believe me Zero, you and I have gone over this enough for me to know your TRUE intent. "So go ahead and win your votes, it's not like I have anything left to lose here, I left the foundation of the wiki and new users expanded upon into something greater. I just kept getting messages from people who had the short end of the stick of your policies. I and they might've made mistakes but nobody's perfect and at least I'm open about it and try to improve." - you actually do have stuff to lose, namely your admin and bcrat status. You didn't honestly think I would just let you try to take that away from me because of your own jealousy without responding, did you? You left the foundation when you abandoned it, and now that we turned it into something greater you want to take away the best admin and bcrat this wiki has. As far as messages, you don't even know about the goings-on over here to truly understand the messages you received. People who broke the rules, got punished, and want an easy way back in. What better way to get that than to turn to an admin who hasn't been around in 5 years? They wouldn't know what those users did wrong and would thus act on their behalf. Not going to work. So in the end, all your little temper tantrum will likely net you is the loss of your bcrat and admin statuses. If that's what you set out to do, then I congratulate you. If not, then you might want to take some time to think over the realities of what we've been doing over here and why you weren't willing to be a part of this.  Nbajammer  Talk  RW  KR  MH  TK  KI  JD  Garo  TH  CG  UM  GZ  TF  48  BS  SH  SI  TFs  FF  SO  RE  GA  CT  DQ  14:47,6/9/2018